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Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Sad

Alright, no high-minded philosophy for this post. Maybe later, on this subject, but not right now. It is 1:22 AM, and it seems pretty much certain that marriage rights for all people were rejected in Maine. :(

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

ii've ehard so many arguments on gay marriage, my view just let them! THeir not hurting anybody!

Anonymous said...

yeah but they are breaking God's law!

Anonymous said...

hwatever!

Dervine7 said...

Shouldn't it be up to them to decide whether or not to break God's law? There is no theological value in forcing someone else to live according to what God says: because, in that situation, they aren't making the choice to obey God's law.

Of course, God's law shouldn't have any relevance in these discussions as the Constitution prohibits the government from endorsing an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
(In fact, if marriage has the religious significance gay-marriage opponents attach to it, it would seem that marriage itself should not be endorsed by the government.)

Anonymous said...

good answer!
btw u need to make more posts! : )

Anonymous said...

wheere do we draw the line though? What if a man loved his daughter and wanted ot marry her? wha tif someone wanted to marry a animal?

Dervine7 said...

Well, it's generally accepted that children and animals do not have the ability to decide these matters for themselves: grown men and women do. The situations are unanalogous.

Anonymous said...

well my point is, where will you stop? Who and what will be allowed to marry next?

fchardy said...

The rule/law can be quite simple, since they (a child or animal) cannot sign a legally binding contract, you cannot legally marry (or have sex) with them. That's purely legalistic, but in order to give consent, you have to be capable of understanding what is being consented to. Children are not capable of informed consent, (sadly this is also true of more than a few supposed adults, sigh...) and neither are animals. There are also strong ethical arguments regarding balance of power in any relationship. Clear lines can be drawn, and they need not be arbitrary.